August 05, 2006Round I: Here She Is...Draft UNSC resolution / Projet de résolution du Conseil de Sécurité So, what now? Comment thread open for those who may wish to weigh in. N.B: Bolds just sections I found of particular interest by way of kicking off debate, histrionics, etc. Posted by Gregory at August 5, 2006 11:03 PM | TrackBack (0)Comments
3 more weeks of conflict, at least? Posted by: skeptic at August 5, 2006 11:38 PM | Permalink to this commentwell, I think this resolution will not do anything until the Bush administration either 1) puts pressure on Israel to stop its incursions into Lebanon (which won't happen), or 2) talks to Syria and Iran officially (which also won't happen). Israel says they won't stop their incursions until Hezbollah stops firing its missiles and returns the two soldiers, while Hezbollah says it won't stop firing until there is not one Israeli soldier in Lebanon. Both patrons of this proxy battle, Iran and America, are not telling their warriors to back down, so it won't end until one side finally says "enough." Posted by: Daniel at August 6, 2006 12:38 AM | Permalink to this commentI LOVVVVVVVVVVE the schadenfreude here. The Bush Admin. working with "Old Europe" (France no less!)! Awesome. On a non-political note, Bolton did a nice job here. End of next week, both sides will be thoroughly sick of this, so its definetly time. BTW: Siniora might, publicly, be expressing "reservations" about the text, but given that an Asst. Secy. of State met with him yesterday, I'm guessing he knew what was coming and that, privately, he's cool with it. Posted by: KevinA at August 6, 2006 12:47 AM | Permalink to this commentGreg: Something to consider for another post: Will Lebanese public opinion turn against Hezbollah after the shooting stops and aid starts flowing? Understandably, its very pro-Hezbo now, though some ignorant US conservatives don't understand the concept of unifying when being bombed to hell, but will reflection change attitudes? Posted by: KevinA at August 6, 2006 12:54 AM | Permalink to this commentOne rather suspects with a regain in Shia influence and Hezbullah prestige that the Lebanese might opt for an artful dodge. As in finding a fine little fiction of 'integrating' Hezbullah forces into the military. On paper. As for the question supra, I would suggest that it is unknowable. It was easy enough to see that the Israeli campaign would generate a rally round the flag effect as it was being executed, presuming at the time what did happen, would. Post-open conflict is subject to too many open questions. Continue aggressive Israeli pressure - counter productive and misconceived, but typical given their blind spot re Arab politics - will tend to make Jumblatt's critical position less tenable. On the other hand, a back off and a clumsy Syrian re-entry could rebalance. But do recall, nearly half the Lebanese population is Shia, when you refer to Lebanese public opinion a la the so-called Cedar Revolution, you're refering to non-Shia and urbanite public opinion. Not synonyms. So, to quote me very self on 14 July: Second, it strikes me the situ is still too fluid to call winners. Jumblatt is spinning. As he should of course. It depends on what Israel does in large part. Blockade and hitting lots of civilian targets with collateral damage is going over time to provoke nationalist reaction. How long will it take for anger at the foreigners (Israel) to overtake immediate anger with Hizbullah. A balance, both are true, which one wins out depends on how long this lasts. In the long run, the hatred of the foreigner almost always wins. Who gets to play the role of the hated foreigner, that is your question. Hezbullah? A sporting man might say the odds tend to Israel and Syria being neck-in-neck. Posted by: The Lounsbury at August 6, 2006 02:41 AM | Permalink to this commentUnconditional release of the IDF soldiers? I'm sure they're having a good laugh at that one in the Nasrallah bunker. The IDF best get out its checkbook instead. And what of the Lebanese grocer the IDF plucked out of the Bekka? Does the IDF return that "tasty fish" unconditionally? And who pays for all this? The "international community." When the US wins a war, it pays for its messes (at least until Iraq came along). Israel always leaves its messes to the "international community." Bolton vs. Nasrallah! I love it. Bolton will get his clock cleaned. Posted by: MD at August 6, 2006 02:42 AM | Permalink to this commentI suspect Hizbollah will honor OP1 and halt its missile attacks, but ignore most of the rest of the provisions. Israel will come under pressure to also stop active offensive operations, and so the violence will slowly wind down. There will be a long after war with many flare-ups of fighting, and no genuine resolution. Eventually Israel will withdraw from Lebanon, and we will pretty much be back to where we started. Both sides will claim victory. Hizbollah will consider it a victory since it will have survived a war with mighty Israel and still be in Southern Lebanon, and will have increased its prestige. Israel will call it a victory since in the after war it will succeed in destroying most of the rockets and many of the Hizbollah fighters (but both can be replaced). The only big losers will be the hapless civilians (many of them old and feeble or women and children) who always suffer the most in this kind of war, and Lebanon itself which will have to stoically try to rebuild its infrastructure again. Not a good outcome, but I suppose it's better than a regional war. Posted by: Levi at August 6, 2006 02:44 AM | Permalink to this comment
Let's hope. I'm thinking of the Battle of Mogadishu. It's often overlooked that the U.S. forces achieved their objective. Two of Aidid's top men were captured. After the U.S. withdrew they were released unconditionally. The U.S. soldier captured in the battle was also released unconditionally. They absolutely, positively, were NOT swapped for one another. Posted by: David Tomlin at August 6, 2006 03:28 AM | Permalink to this commentStrategically (militarily, not perceptually) a cease fire now isn’t to Israel’s advantage. If they agree to a cease fire now, and agree to swap prisoners for the kidnapped soldiers, and even agree to return the sliver of disputed land Hezbollah claims it’s fighting to retrieve, but in return only get an international peace-keeping force as a buffer – they will have ended up with the proverbial short end of the stick. Hezbollah still possesses at least 7,000 rockets (maybe a lot more), including hundreds of long range missiles capable of reaching major population centers. Hezbollah isn’t going to turn over those weapons to the Lebanese government. At best, they may move them back if peacekeepers are allowed into Lebanon; and the moment a cease fire is in place, more Iranian weapons will be smuggled into Lebanon, most likely with bigger and badder payloads. One of the posters above said 3 more weeks of fighting -- I wouldn't be suprised to see 3 more months-- or until Isreal is satisfied they've done significient damage to Hezbollah's longer range missile arsenal.... Posted by: Jay Jerome at August 6, 2006 05:40 AM | Permalink to this commentAs I have written at my blog I think this resolution is DOA because I simply cannot see how Hezbollah can agree to it http://www.di2.nu/200608/06.htm Posted by: Francis at August 6, 2006 10:29 AM | Permalink to this commentI'm struck by the qualifying term “current” placed before the word “crisis” in PP3. Wonder how both sides will spin that? Its there for a reason/s. Posted by: jonst at August 6, 2006 11:35 AM | Permalink to this commentWhat this looks like to me is an effort to craft a UN position that Israel can live with. Under current circumstances, if Israel can live with it Hezbollah cannot. One could argue that a UN resolution accepted by Israel and rejected by Hezbollah could generate pressure on Hezbollah within Lebanon by people desperate to stop the fighting. According to this theory the fact that sympathy for Hezbollah has skyrocketed among Lebanon's non-Shiite population doesn't mean it has signed on to all of Hezbollah's objectives, and will eventually return to its earlier attitude of resentment of Hezbollah for having dragged the country into a war without consulting anyone. This argument could of course be completely wrong. The presence of large numbers of Israeli troops on Lebanese territory, plus the damage done by Israel's air campaign to many places unrelated to Hezbollah, may render Lebanese (and public opinion in other Arab countries) indifferent to what governments say at the UN. I have no crystal ball; I'm only saying what it seems to me the UN resolution is intended to do. Posted by: Zathras at August 7, 2006 12:39 AM | Permalink to this commentDoes Israel trust France? If so, perhaps we're seeing a below-the-surface transformation in French and Old Europe attitudes toward Islamic irridentism. I've read that the most popular candidate in France to replace Chirac has recommended mandatory conscription as one tool to crack down on the Muslim rioters in the banlieues. Perhaps they will be the modern day equivalent of the Buffalo soldiers. Posted by: wks at August 7, 2006 12:44 AM | Permalink to this commentAt the moment, Hezbollah and the Lebanese government do not seem to be prepared to accept a ceasefire, unless Israel withdraws from Lebanon. Obviously, that would not be acceptable to the Israelis. And the French and anyone else who is prepared to take part in an international force do not see their role as disarming Hezbollah. But maybe some sort of compromise could be reached with Iran that would allow the violence to cease. There does not appear to be a mood in Tehran for confrontation. Their main aim is to keep Hezbollah as a deterrent against Israel and the US. So perhaps a deal could be reached whereby an international force would take over the areas now controlled by Israel and prevent resupply of rockets to Hezbollah positions, but would not actively seek to further disarm Hezbollah. Maybe Hezbollah would get their convicted killer back in exchange for information on the missing airman. A deal along those lines of course would be far from implementing resolution 1559. This would have to wait for a longer term deal with Iran, where they were offered security guarantees in exchange for abandoning nuclear fuel enrichment/ development of nuclear weapons. It is of course possible that Iran would reject any such deal. If so, the future for Lebanon and the region would be bleak. http://davidp1.blogspot.com/2006/08/what-will-happen-now.html A couple more points: mention of Shebaa farms in the draft resolution, but not of Lebanese prisoners held by Israel (not in the Operative Paragraphs). Lebanese government spokesmen are still complaining about the land mines issue, in spite of OP6. Posted by: DavidP at August 7, 2006 11:30 AM | Permalink to this comment |
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