December 16, 2004Putin's Ukraine Agenda...and OursJane's speculates. According to JID's sources in Kiev, on 28 November the pro-Russian Yanukovych met in Severodonetsk with an aide of former Russian prime minister, and current Russian Ambassador to Ukraine, Viktor Chernomyrdin, the mayor of Moscow, Yuri Luzhkov and the 16 oblast governors. Top of the agenda was a discussion on greater autonomy for the eastern and south-eastern oblasts of Ukraine. All quite plausible. But, and well worth noting, things do look different in places like Dnipropetrosk than they do in Kiev. Read this for more: These 10 million Ukrainians may be just as fed up as Kiev and Lviv are with the post-Soviet oligarchs and with the corrupt semi-authoritarian regime of Leonid Kuchma, the outgoing president. They may have groaned at Putin's cack-handed appearances on the campaign trail and the blatant attempts to fix the vote for Yanukovich in the east (as also certainly happened in the west for Yushchenko). But are 10 million people who did not vote Yushchenko all to be dismissed as latterday Soviet clones? Do they only jerk into life when Putin and the revamped KGB press the remote control? What do they want? How do they think they are going to get it? That's about right. The "Orange Revolution," like many revolutions, contains within it seeds of going forward oppression that must be kept well in mind--along with all the jubilant talk of liberation emiting from the streets of Kiev. Let's not get too carried away just yet (see Nick Kristof for an example of full-blown cheerleading from the scene). Don't get me wrong. I support the democratic revolution underway in Ukraine. But Russia has hugely significant historical links to eastern portions of that country, and many inhabitants located there feel more affinity to Russia than western parts of Ukraine. They have aspirations, fears, legitimate concerns too. The U.S. and EU must be heavily involved in ensuring that those regions aren't cast aside or slighted should Yushchenko prevail. That will increase the chances that said regions don't separate via some deep autonomy arrangements or de facto secession so as to more fully enter Russia's orbit--a bad result for the U.S.--because, of course, we seek to limit Russia's control of its so-called "near abroad." That said, however, we cannot too fully rub Russia's nose in it. Put differently, declining powers must be managed with tact--overt humiliation of Russia on matters so important to their national interest (eastern Ukraine, parts of Kazakhstan, Belarus) might backfire in the not too distant future. Bottom line: support Yushchenko, ensure eastern Ukraine's rights are fully respected going forward, allow Russia special trade/economic links in said areas, coordinate closely with Moscow and Brussels to maximize transperency so as to foster greater trust among the key parties. This is, after all, a very delicate period fraught with not insignificant risks that Ukraine could split in two-a result B.D. considers contra the U.S. national interest. Posted by Gregory at December 16, 2004 04:37 AMComments
Greg, you know that Sammy P. sort of predicted this would happen, right? http://cheznadezhda.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2004/12/14/205077.html Posted by: praktike at December 16, 2004 02:29 PM | Permalink to this commentGreg, what is the risk that "those [eastern] regions aren't cast aside or slighted should Yushchenko prevail"? Yushchenko's sidekick is the arch-thief from Dnipropetrovsk, Yulia Timoshenko (aka the "Eleven Billion Woman"). Yulia contrived with the help of Ukrainian PM Pavel Lazarenko (who was convicted in California of money-laundering and other crimes) to set up a scam holding company that dominated Ukraine's entire energy industry, ie about 20% of Ukraine's entire GDP, and funneled billions in cash to Yulia and other corrupt pols. How exactly would Yulia alienate the Russian-aligned oligarchs and proles in the East? She's thick as thieves with them; in fact she's one of them. Posted by: lex at December 16, 2004 09:40 PM | Permalink to this commentYeah, but she's a total fox. Posted by: praktike at December 17, 2004 06:01 AM | Permalink to this commentThat quote from the Guardian is sadly typical Eruo-left reactionary clap-trap arising mainly out of opposition to Bush and refusal to acknowledge or support anything good happening on his watch. "Oh, we can't be supporting democracy in Ukraine, it's Russia's traditional sphere of influence and we'd be meddling in their affairs. It was originally a Russian city in 988. Blah blah blah..." By the logic used in that article, I'm sure Guardian writers, readers, and other members of the Euro-left would support immediately withdrawing UNMOVIC and allowing the Serbs to move back into their sphere of influence in Kosovo. After all, that was originally Serbian territory until they lost it to the Turks in 1389. Posted by: MPC at December 17, 2004 02:53 PM | Permalink to this commentPlaying texas holdem at http://texas-holdem-000.net right now is a great idea, i thing! Posted by: texas holdem at December 24, 2004 05:54 PM | Permalink to this commentWhant casino at home? Go to online casino games at http://online-casino-games-000.com!!! Posted by: casino games at December 24, 2004 05:59 PM | Permalink to this comment |
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