January 02, 2005

Powell on the U.S. Tsunami Relief Effort

On today's Meet the Press.

MR. RUSSERT: As you well know, there's been a lot of discussion about the administration and its response to this crisis. The New York Times on Thursday wrote this editorial. "We hope Secretary of State Colin Powell was privately embarrassed when, two days into a catastrophic disaster that hit 12 of the world's poor countries and will cost billions of dollars to meliorate, he held a press conference to say that America, the world's richest nation, would contribute $15 million. That's less than half of what Republicans plan to spend on the Bush inaugural festivities."

It's now up to $350 million, but was the initial response too timid?

SEC'Y POWELL: No, I don't think so. These things have a life cycle. Last Sunday we all started to receive word of this tragedy, and it looked like several thousand lives were lost. The enormity of it had not yet hit. But what we do in circumstances such as this is our ambassadors on the ground immediately offer aid, which they did. It's not much, $100,000 in each of the countries, but it shows that we are committed and engaged. By last Sunday afternoon, evening, I had started calling all the foreign ministers of the immediately affected nations and on Sunday evening, and then getting them all finally on Monday morning with time changes, I said to them the United States was following; "Let us know what you need. Please let our embassy know what you need," and reached out to them. So they knew we were committed right away, on Sunday afternoon.

The president then, Monday and Tuesday, called heads of government and state, said the same thing. The first request we got for aid was from the International Federation of the Red Cross and Red Crescent. On Sunday they asked for $7 million. The United States immediately gave them $4 million of the $7 million. That's a pretty good start. On Monday we upped it to $15 million. By Tuesday, when things were starting to jell a little more with respect to what was needed, we upped it to $35 million. And then we waited to get some assessments in. But while waiting, we dispatched teams, we diverted ships with food, we launched our military forces from our Pacific Command. The Bonhomme Richard has been launched. The Abraham Lincoln carrier was launched. So we really started to move out.

We began working with the international community. The president made a statement on Wednesday which demonstrated his concern and also created a core group to begin making sure that all of our efforts were aligned. The president was kept informed constantly from Sunday afternoon on. I spoke to him on Monday, noon, before I went out and made my first press statement. And as we got our assessments in and as the magnitude of this really hit us, then the president decided, based on a recommendation from me and administrator of the AID, Natsios, that we should go to $350 million.

This is also consistent with what other nations had been doing. I'm so pleased the Japanese have gone to $500 million, but they also started out at a much lower number, as did so many other nations. After you see the impact of this and the enormity of it, then you scale up your efforts. But it is not just a matter of money. It's a matter of getting supplies to the region and then, once you get these supplies to airports and ports, how do you make retail distribution out to the people in need? And this is where trucks, helicopters, C-130 aircraft, they come into play. There's no point spending a lot of money to put all of these supplies in the region unless you can distribute these supplies.

So one of the things that I will be looking at on my trip with Governor Bush and our FEMA director and other people is, is there anything we can do to help these countries, which have never been exposed to this kind of catastrophe, to help them organize themselves to deliver the aid, and also to consider the reconstruction effort that's going to be required?

I might add two other points, if I may, Tim. One: Our Defense Department is spending a great deal of money, which doesn't count as part of the $350 million, to put our assets in the region and to fly our helicopters and other aircraft and ships to assist with this. And the other thing that's so exciting is the response from the private sector of America. I mean, companies are matching the contributions of employees. I know that you're doing things right here at your network, so many other networks. Amazon.com is allowing you to one-click a contribution to the American Red Cross. So tens and tens of millions of dollars are being raised within the private community, which suggests the nature of our society, the compassion that we have for people in need.

So I think the American response has been appropriate. It has been scaled up as the scale of the disaster became more widely known. And the reason I want to linger on this a bit is I want the American people to understand that their government and our society has responded appropriately. I will tell you who is not churlish or disappointed in our response, and that's the nations who are receiving aid. They have been very thankful and very appreciative of what we have done, and we will do more.

MR. RUSSERT: Do you believe that the United States contribution will go beyond $350 million?

SEC'Y POWELL: It may well have to go beyond $350 million, but it's the time now to step back and assess, see how best to use the $350 million. $350 million hasn't been spent yet. It'll be spent over time and it will be spent for supplies. It'll be spent for infrastructure rebuilding. It'll be spent for reconstruction efforts in due course. And so whether we will need more remains to be seen. But right now the international community and especially the United Nations is very pleased with the response that we have seen. Over $2 billion have been pledged just in official money, plus a lot more in terms of private contributions.

MR. RUSSERT: There was discussion in the country and around the world that the president wasn't heard from for some three days after the crisis began. Someone who worked at the State Department, David Phillips, was quoted as saying this in the Los Angeles Times, "Allies and critics of" President "Bush said that the administration had bungled its response to the tragedy, missing a chance to display goodwill at a time when the country was facing opposition abroad to the war in Iraq. Much of that opposition comes from the Muslim world, and several of the countries hit by the tsunami have large Muslim populations. `This was a golden opportunity for President Bush to speak to the victims of the tsunami and the Muslim world by showing care and compassion,' said David L. Phillips, a former senior advisor to the State Department under Bush and President Clinton and now a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. `Instead the U.S. is on the defensive, trying to explain its approach.'"

SEC'Y POWELL: I don't think that's the case at all. We were engaged on day one, hour one with the standing up of task forces. The president was involved from the very beginning and was kept informed. He went out on Wednesday after we had a better assessment of what was going on. He made a statement to the world. He created the core group. It's been seven days, and in seven days, we have launched a carrier battle group. We have launched an amphibious battle group. We have contributed $350 million. We have assessment teams all over. We have energized the private sector. We have put together a core group that is assisting these nations. The nations involved are very pleased with our response. The secretary-general and the other international organizations we deal with are very pleased with our response. There is always some former official around, some Rolodex ranger that always shows up to criticize what we are doing. But I want the American people to know that they should be very proud of what their country has been doing and what our private sector has been doing to help these desperate people in need.

The Administration has, within a week, gotten on top of the massive scale of this humanitarian disaster. Indeed, we are involved in the largest military operations in East Asia since the Vietnam War. And, of course, we've raised our intial pledge from $35MM to $350MM. Powell is right that the American people can now be proud of the efforts its government has undertaken in response to this calamity.

The efforts and resources, of course, are desparately needed:

Helicopter crews operating from the United States Navy's Abraham Lincoln reported seeing bodies in the sea more than 20 miles off the coast of Sumatra. Starving people besieged helicopters carrying the first aid to remote Indonesian towns today, the Reuters news agency reported. Hungry crowds swarmed the Seahawk helicopters that had started ferrying supplies to devastated communities along the coast.

"They came from all directions, crawling under the craft, knocking on the pilot's door, pushing to get into the cabin," Petty Officer First Class Brennan Zwack told an Associated Press correspondent aboard the Navy aircraft carrier. "But when they saw we had no more food inside, they backed away, saying, 'Thank you, thank you."'

But wild scenes in some places meant the deliveries had to be aborted, Reuters said. After a mission down Sumatra's west coast, Capt. Larry Burt, commander of a helicopter air wing on the Abraham Lincoln, told the news agency that he had seen "people standing there waving flags trying to signal us. There are so many, you just can't stop for all of them."

Money pledged for both emergency relief and reconstruction rose past $2 billion today, according to Jan Egeland, the United Nations undersecretary general for emergency relief. "International compassion has never, ever, been like this," he said.

UPDATE: Fareed Zakaria has more.

Posted by Gregory at January 2, 2005 09:53 PM

Who cares what Powell has to say about anything.

If his denial of the My Lai 4 massacre and Iran Contra involvement weren't enough, then his straight faced spewing of lies- "we have incontravertible proof that this trailor is a mobile germ warfare weapons lab" (etc, etc) - in front of the UN during the build up to the US invasion of Iraq should have been.

It's good thing that the US is contributing. It would be a better thing if the commander in chief would have taken the time to say a few words on the nation's behalf to the people of the devestated countries.

No class.

Posted by: observer at January 3, 2005 01:38 AM | Permalink to this comment Permalink

The problem is that the human losses entailed by Bush's delay in "getting on top of the massive scale of this humanitarian disaster" would almost certainly have been prevented if he had a healthier respect for scientific expertise.

Posted by: Strange Doctrines at January 3, 2005 04:24 AM | Permalink to this comment Permalink

The reflex to blame Bush for everything is not good for your mental health. It also leads to saying really stupid things.

Posted by: Lee at January 3, 2005 05:02 AM | Permalink to this comment Permalink

"It's good thing that the US is contributing. It would be a better thing if the commander in chief would have taken the time to say a few words on the nation's behalf to the people of the devestated countries."

That's what the UN does, it pays more attention to style than substance, by pretending that talking and posturing is actually better than acting.

It pretends to act useful, sometimes taking credit for the efforts of other organizations and people. It plans meetings, makes declarations, and eventually organizes money that will arrive weeks/months later, after having been skimmed by an official, and then unofficial (corruption) cover charge.

The US on the other hand organizes regional allies to immediately send in naval battlegroups, Marines, helicopters, C-130s, and MREs immediately into the area. Embarrassed at their bureaucratic intertia, UN officials try to convince Australians and Americans to work in UN uniforms, so that it'll look like they're actually doing something useful.

All the while, we're attacked by the normal European moralists and indigenous bozos who couldn't find an issue they wouldn't use to attack Bush or the US. Thousands of people dead become just another talking point.

Posted by: JackC at January 3, 2005 05:54 AM | Permalink to this comment Permalink

Thanks for better making the point I was making on my blog. What's gone wrong here is how the Administration handled the initial public affairs angle in not letting people know how the process worked. It remains a federal felony to spend or even commit funds that are yet to be authorized by Congress... which happens not to be in session.

Posted by: John at January 3, 2005 03:38 PM | Permalink to this comment Permalink

It would be a better thing if the commander in chief would have taken the time to say a few words on the nation's behalf to the people of the devestated countries.

Yuck! I could never be a politician. Who cares what the President says?!? What matters is what he DOES.

Don't you think that dispatching 12,000 troops counts for more than saying "I and my nation feel your pain"?

Posted by: mrsizer at January 3, 2005 06:50 PM | Permalink to this comment Permalink


While perhaps too much has been made of this, I think the point is why not both? Must we choose one or the other?

After all, Bush eventually gave the "I feel your pain speech" but it came later than many deemed appropriate, perhaps squandering a "hanging curveball" of diplomacy.

Posted by: Eric Martin at January 3, 2005 07:56 PM | Permalink to this comment Permalink

Wouldn't you rather he hit the the "fastball" of action out of the park and really make a difference?

Posted by: Rob at January 3, 2005 10:25 PM | Permalink to this comment Permalink

Surely the United States has an interest in ensuring that the world understands and recognizes the good things we do. The most efficient way to have that happen is for the President to make some kind of speech or hold a press conference announcing it. Why is this so hard to grasp?

Posted by: praktike at January 3, 2005 10:34 PM | Permalink to this comment Permalink

Why is it hard to grasp? Because it's ridiculous nitpicking criticism from a peanut gallery that hasn't given us much of anything else. Bush has always played tone-deaf to the shrill voice of the media and his hyperbolic critics. It's one of his strengths, especially when it reduces them to complaining about how we're doing a fine job but not looking good enough while we do it.

Posted by: Sortelli at January 3, 2005 11:43 PM | Permalink to this comment Permalink

Rob, again, why not both? It's not that hard.

Posted by: Eric Martin at January 4, 2005 01:12 AM | Permalink to this comment Permalink

Well, for one thing, it bring into public play the saw attributed to Abraham Lincoln, "Never confuse motion with action." -- Talk is cheap. US and Aussie Air Foce C-130s and Navy Carrier Groups deliver.

Posted by: Ralph at January 4, 2005 04:11 AM | Permalink to this comment Permalink

And Koffi was skiing for 3 days.

Just goes to show that large beauracracies don't move very swiftly.

And that's news to....whom?

Yeah, Bush could've said "I feel your pain" 24-48 hours earlier. OK, you're right.

The fact of the matter is that the US Navy was dispatched very quickly. So, what you're complaining about is that Bush didn't stand up and say, right away, "I've dispatched the US Navy." And, let's be adult, you would have criticized him for claiming "credit" or "do-good points" for doing that very thing.

Go home, write a check, and take a long, hard look at yourself in the mirror.

Posted by: cj at January 4, 2005 08:05 AM | Permalink to this comment Permalink

Do you know what the first pledge of aid from the German government was, on the day after the disaster?
ONE million Euros.

But donīt worry, it quickly went up. They now say it may reach 500 million eventually. That is how it works. As the scale of the disaster became evident and concrete needs can be determined by working with the affected countries, more money is made available. Anyway, I seriously doubt that it is possible to spend all of it within a few days in a useful way.

Of course, nobody beat up the German government over this, and it would not have been fair either. But then, why condemn the US? Once more, this is a debate about absolutely nothing, which serves only to fuel anti-American hysteria by people who know nothing and care about nothing.

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